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Nathan
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strider72
USA
167 Posts |
 Posted - 06/09/2008 : 19:53:34
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| Gun-free zones just make me feel so much safer, don't you feel that way.. NOT!!!!!! |
Glock 19/FEG HiPower/P32 for me
WOLVERINES!!
"Choose you this day whom ye will serve" Joshua 24:15 |
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Electron Don
USA
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Posted - 08/20/2008 : 21:53:10
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| Chilling video. i think that the airlines did it right. "Yes, we are going to arm some of our pilots but we aren't telling how many and who." As a teacher working in a "gun free" zone, I keep considering "deep concealed carry" options. However, i realize that I would be risking my career and the priniciple means that support my family. |
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ekimnelo
USA
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 10:12:35
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Oregon is a shall issue state. This past winter spring a female high school teacher in Medford Or. "wanted" to carry while teaching due to the fact that her husband was stalking and threatening her. She has a restraining order. The school district refused her request and she eventually went to the state Supreme Court and was ultimately denied too.
Hmmmmm you say - Why in a shall issue state?
Because the school district (state bueauracy) apparently takes precedence over state law as they have a clause in their contract that does not allow employees to carry as its a "GUN FREE ZONE."
WOW At this time she has not taken any further legal action, although alot of the gun clubs have donated $ for her cause.
More later, if there is any updates.
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strider72
USA
167 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2008 : 07:05:06
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Originally posted by Electron Don
As a teacher working in a "gun free" zone, I keep considering "deep concealed carry" options. However, i realize that I would be risking my career and the priniciple means that support my family.
My fiance is an Ag teacher and her department is off by itself. I have been racking my brain to come up with tactics for her to use in case of a gunman picking her school as a target... There is so much bulls**t with this gunfree zone garbage.
Back in the '70s Israel had a problem with terrorists shooting their schools up... they armed the teachers... the problem ended... |
Glock 19/FEG HiPower/P32 for me
WOLVERINES!!
"Choose you this day whom ye will serve" Joshua 24:15 |
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blue68f100
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2008 : 11:43:47
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| There are a few school districts in texas that passed a city ordnance to allow teachers to carry a conceal gun. So I would start lobbing your city counsel for a such rule/law. |
David
1980 BHP 9mm
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fred1979
USA
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 19:44:23
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| i would have gone the other way i would have sued to school since they wouldn't let her protect her self from a threat to force them to provide a armed guard to full time protect her while she was risking her self at a gun free zone. she could have forced the schoool to pay a city officer to protect her the 6-8 hours she was in the school + any after school activities and handle all the trauma lawsuits that whould come about from haveing a armed guard in the school. you can't hurt government with law or common sence you can only hurt them in the pocket book. |
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Double Naught Spy
USA
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Posted - 01/15/2009 : 13:07:27
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Originally posted by blue68f100
There are a few school districts in texas that passed a city ordnance to allow teachers to carry a conceal gun. So I would start lobbing your city counsel for a such rule/law.
Unless you know of others, to my knowledge, there is only 1 school district in Texas that allows teaches to conceal carry, Harrold. This is NOT done by city ordnance. City ordnance has nothing to do with the process in Texas. By Texas law, schools may give permission for concealed carry on campus. Harrold is the only school district to allow this as a district. Of course, the Harrold School District consists of a singular school. |
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BikerRN
251 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 00:16:28
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I carry a gun because I have seen true evil.
I do not wish that evil to visit me, or anyone else, but if he does I want to be prepared for him when he visits.
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pff
USA
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Posted - 01/19/2009 : 18:36:51
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I carry cuz I don't want my final thought to be:
"Now _THAT_ was stupid."
Regards,
Pat
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Seamus236
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Posted - 01/20/2009 : 15:25:31
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Having witnessed first hand as Biker said, "true evil" and having arrested many disciples of true evil, I have stonrlgy encouraged and facilitated each adult member of my own family to religiously carry a concealed (loaded) handgun everywhere it is permissible to do so.
"It will not happen to ME..." or "Things like that don't REALLY happen HERE..." are infamous last words of numerous VICTIMS and persons afflicted with what I call the "Ostrich Syndrome". Ususally good decent but horribly naive people who cannot fathom the idea that evil will indeed visit them.
I am also of the personal and professional opinion, that there is NO such thing as "random crime" or "random violence".
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Johannes
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2009 : 11:53:21
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Many years ago before I retired from Law Enforcement, my wife and some of her girlfriends decided they'd like to go up into the mountains for day hikes. I felt a little nervous about the whole thing because I know what goes on in the mountains here in Arizona from time to time, so I bought her a S&W 640 and took her out to teach her to be proficient.
After she reached a level of proficiency that I was comfortable with, I loaded it with .38 +P semi jacketed hollow points and bought her a fanny pack. I made her promise me that if she ever had to use it, that she should contact me first if at all possible. She was concerned about carrying concealed before getting her permit and I told her I'd rather bond her out than bury her, besides the fanny pack was a holster and in Az. all you need to be legal is to have any part of the gun or holster in plain view when carrying. After several weeks she enrolled in a concealed carry class and she subsequently got her concealed carry permit.
I still carry my Hi Power on my belt either concealed or in plain view. I don't worry about my wife any more when she goes on her outings with her friends, and so far (knock on wood) she hasn't found it necessary to call.............
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yeruham
Israel
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Posted - 04/04/2009 : 02:47:00
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Dear Friends,
This is not the first time I've learned about educational institutions which forbid teachers to carry weapons even after they have experienced evil. Fortunately the university where I teach has no such prohibitions. When I mentioned to a very high person in our administration that I come to work with a pistol, he replied: "Just make sure it's always in your belt and not locked up in a drawer. We might need it some day."
Personally, however, I think that laws about who is permitted to carry a weapon should be stricter. People who are given permits should be highly trained. The training should include instruction -- and some means of testing whether the instruction has been understood and accepted -- about when to use the weapon and when not to. And permit holders should be required to qualify on the range at a pretty high level. Some form of test of loyalty to one's country should also be devised.
I would also require off-duty military and police, as well as veterans of combat military units, to carry weapons at all times unless they have good reasons (like swimming) for not carrying one.
I am writing from Israel where we have rather unique conditions. I grew up in the United States and am aware that there is a strong movement there, to defend the constitutional right of citizens to carry firearms. I highly respect that movement. I would be very happy to see responses to and criticisms of what I have written in this posting. I am sure that it would be very instructive.
Mr Nathan, I was unable to access your video. Is it still online?
Best wishes to Jewish friends for a happy Pesach and to Christian friends for a happy Easter.
Yeruham
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Dutch
37 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2009 : 23:11:51
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| My neighborhood isn't too bad, as yet. However, we are just now starting to see ms-13 gang sign. I'm not liking it so I'm now carrying. |
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yeruham
Israel
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Posted - 04/26/2009 : 11:24:08
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| I hadn't heard of ms-13 until I saw Mr Dutch's post. So I looked it up on Google. Wow! Some of you may think that Israel is a pretty dangerous place. But I think that life here is mostly quite safe and peaceful when compared to what some of you are dealing with over there. Of course you have to carry. |
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BikerRN
251 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2009 : 03:48:21
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Mr. Yeruham,
Howdy friend.  I understand your wanting to have people that are trained and competent carrying weapons. I do not disagree with you.
I think the various CCW Qualifications are too easy, but if we allowed our current political administration to design the qualifications I doubt that even the most highly skilled Special Forces Operator would be able to pass the test.  I personally don't want anyone that I don't consider competent and trained to have access to a firearm around those I love. The problem is, who is trained enough and how do we verify that?
Also, how do we not infringe upon the Rights that we as a country recognize? It's a never ending paradox I'm afraid, and I certainly don't have the answer. I just hope and pray that those that are trained are also responsible.
In the end I think it comes down to personal responsibility. That is why I seek out training beyond what my employer provides me with. Most people in my profession do not do this, and I'm a LEO. Guns are such a small part of the day to day expirience, but when you need one nothing else will suffice.
Now I'm going to be thinking about this all night as I try to sleep. Maybe I need a beer. 
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Poohgyrr
USA
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 07:17:30
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"Little Lizzie"
http://www.americanhandgunner.com/CGC705.html |
John
"Life brings sorrows and joys alike. It is what a man does with them - not what they do to him- that is the test of his mettle." T. Roosevelt |
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OIF2
167 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2010 : 22:38:29
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I carry out of habit...24 years on the LAPD. I carried EVERWHERE in LA, even when putting the trash out. I live in a small town in Texas now, very quiet. But I still wear my battered Airweight .38. Definitely beats your fists.
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Taipan
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Posted - 04/16/2010 : 22:43:04
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Originally posted by BikerRN
I carry a gun because I have seen true evil.
I do not wish that evil to visit me, or anyone else, but if he does I want to be prepared for him when he visits.
Biker
Agree. I started carring long before starting my carreer in security. I carry because I've decided not to be a victim. I also have seen true evil and I'm prepare to defend my family if his ugly face shows up.
Stay safe!! |
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Taipan
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Posted - 04/16/2010 : 22:49:18
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Originally posted by BikerRN
Mr. Yeruham,
Howdy friend. I understand your wanting to have people that are trained and competent carrying weapons. I do not disagree with you.
I think the various CCW Qualifications are too easy, but if we allowed our current political administration to design the qualifications I doubt that even the most highly skilled Special Forces Operator would be able to pass the test. I personally don't want anyone that I don't consider competent and trained to have access to a firearm around those I love. The problem is, who is trained enough and how do we verify that?
Also, how do we not infringe upon the Rights that we as a country recognize? It's a never ending paradox I'm afraid, and I certainly don't have the answer. I just hope and pray that those that are trained are also responsible.
In the end I think it comes down to personal responsibility. That is why I seek out training beyond what my employer provides me with. Most people in my profession do not do this, and I'm a LEO. Guns are such a small part of the day to day expirience, but when you need one nothing else will suffice.
Now I'm going to be thinking about this all night as I try to sleep. Maybe I need a beer.
Biker
And you are from a country that has a 911 service. I'm from a country where we only see 911 on tv. you are right, it goes down to responsibility and not only torwards guns, but also the responsibility to be accountable for your own safety. No police force in the world can protect you 100%.
As I read somewhere: "Why do I carry a gun?...because I cannot carry a police officer"
Saty safe out there, especially you Biker. |
"Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts" |
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